![]() Perhaps I'll deal with the hassle of gelatin over the convenience of hydrolysate.Īs for broth, it's too much work for me. But if you're saying gelatin has more of a therapeutic value, I'm getting swayed to that ideas hearing it from you. You still have to dissolve it in cool water to let it partially dissolve before introducing hot water for it to completely dissolve. You can't just dissolve it in warm liquid like collagen. It just takes a little more time to prepare. I agree that gelatin would be preferable over collagen. It easily upsets the blood sugar control mechanism. Being so much digestible isn't a good thing when it forces the body to adjust to a sudden deluge of needs, which in this case is the sudden need for sugar. I think the more processed a protein is, the more easily digestible it is. Although I haven't used glycine, I'm disposed to not use it, given my experience with collagen and having a hard time sleeping without adding sugar to the bedtime drink. I've been able to sleep much better after rejiggering my bedtime drink. I thought I was already observant, but your observations got me to rethinking the use of the different alternative sources of glycine. You have to be a very observant person to capture all these you're saying. I've said that recently in another thread I think you were also in.Ĭlick to expand.Yes, I think it's you. Overall, I've found broth is the far superior option for "food" glycine intake in terms of therapeutic benefit, digestibility, and yumminess. IMO it's possibly rendered ineffective or at least much less so (to the point of needing to take so much that it becomes economically unfeasible) by the extra processing it goes through. If I had to pick a powder, though, I'd pick powdered gelatin over hydrolysate, even with the digestive issues and crappy taste, simply because I don't think there's much therapeutic value to hydrolysate. Hydrolysate and broth do not have either of these drawbacks. Plus there's always an undertaste of barnyard **** with powdered gelatin, even if highly flavored. I've tried using it for extended periods of time (like three months) and it didn't produce the same effects that gelatin or gelatin broth does in the same amount of time.īUT I also find that powdered gelatin does give me gut issues, even if "well cooked". It seems to do nothing for me in terms of how it makes me feel or any benefit to my skin or connective tissues. I said it mainly because I don't get any therapeutic benefit from hydrolysate. I've said that recently in another thread I think you were also in. So be careful with that.Ĭlick to expand.Might have been me. But again, have heard of taurine producing wakefulness, even when ingested earlier in the day. Glycine does work for sleep based on my experience. Then use 2-3g glycine in the evening without taurine, for the relaxation/sleep benefits. Maybe try the combo in the morning or early afternoon at a dose of something like 0.5g taurine to 2g glycine. I do use taurine in combo with glycine for digestion, but not in the evening, for the reason of potential wakefulness. I've heard taurine gives some people wakefulness, so better to stick to that before about 1p. I like glycine for sleep, but I use no more than 2-3g right at bed time. LOL Such high dosages of anything often backfire terribly on some people. Please try to refrain from doing that to yourself in the future. Those are crazy high doses of anything for your first try. (Dubocovich, et al., 1990.) So, in the behavioral sense, melatonin reduces sensitivity, yet it increases the eyes’ sensitivity to light, causing them to be injured by light that would otherwise be harmless." An antagonist to melatonin acts as an antidepressant, reducing “behavioral despair” resulting from stress. "Melatonin lowers body temperature, causes vasoconstriction in the brain, heart, and other organs, and slows reactions. "Melatonin increases the concentration of free fatty acids during the night " ![]() "Almost any kind of stress increases the formation of melatonin." "There is a lot of talk about melatonin’s function as an antioxidant, but, like so many other “antioxidants,” melatonin can act as a pro-oxidant at physiologically relevant concentrations some studies have found that it, like estrogen, increases the activity of the pro-oxidative free radical nitric oxide (which acts like melatonin on pigment cells, causing them to lighten)." Sirotkin found that melatonin inhibits progesterone production but stimulates estrogen production, and it’s widely recognized that melatonin generally inhibits the thyroid hormones," all increase the risk of retinal light damage and macular degeneration." All quotes from here Aging Eyes, Infant Eyes, and Excitable Tissues
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